Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Chino Moreno is the lead singer of Deftones, the Sacramento band experiencing a resurgence as a new generation discovers their ’90s hits on social media. This year, Deftones have been selling out arenas while putting the finishing touches on their latest album, Private Music. During the recording sessions, guitarist Stephen [Stef-in] Carpenter’s health took a turn when he was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Chino stepped in to handle more of the guitar parts, approaching the album with newfound clarity after getting sober. On today’s episode, Leah Rose talks with Chino about the band’s early days living with their late bassist, Chi Cheng. He reflects on the story behind the Around the Fur album cover and shares his post-show ritual—which often includes winding down with rom-coms in his tour bus bunk. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Deftones songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Miguel, the Grammy-winning alt-R&B pioneer is back with a new album, Caos—his first full-length in eight years. It’s the latest step in a career that’s always pushed the boundaries of R&B, from his 2010 debut through albums that blended in psychedelia, dance music, and now touches of ’80s industrial and even ranchera rhythms. On today’s episode, Miguel talks with Leah Rose about his unreleased 2023 album Viscera and how suspending himself from piercings in his back during its rollout helped him surrender control. He also shares the story of controversial imagery for his single “New Martyrs.” And, despite collaborations with Travis Scott, Mariah Carey, and Tame Impala, Miguel explains why he’s happiest just making music with his friends. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Miguel songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

30 years ago, Sublime released the album that defined Southern California’s music scene for a generation. Now the band is preparing to put out their fourth full-length, and for the first time, Bradley Nowell’s son, Jakob Nowell, is stepping up as lead singer. Bradley, Sublime’s original frontman, died of a heroin overdose in 1996, just a couple of months before the band's breakthrough album came out. Jakob was still an infant then, but he grew up surrounded by the lasting influence of a band that blended ska, punk, reggae, and hip-hop into a sound that dominated Southern California in the ‘90s.  After Bradley’s passing, bassist Eric Wilson and drummer Bud Gaugh launched Long Beach Dub Allstars in 1997 and stayed active with different projects. In late 2023, they shared the stage with Jakob at a benefit for Bad Brains’ singer H.R., and the spark between them was immediate. On today’s episode, Justin Richmond talks with Jakob, Bud, and Eric about how this new chapter of Sublime came together. They also revisit the band’s scrappy early days, when they had to beg, borrow, and steal just to keep going, and share memories of recording the self-titled album at Willie Nelson’s studio outside Austin. Big thanks to InterTrend and Creative Class Collective for letting us record at their facilities in Long Beach, CA. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Sublime songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Word first broke about the band The Favors back in February, when cryptic posts revealed that Billie Eilish’s producer and brother, Finneas, was making new music with singer Ashe. Soon after, both artists began performing these songs live, introducing The Favors to audiences even before an official release. Now, the band is set to drop their debut album, The Dream. They call it “a real chemistry album,” the product of free-flowing writing and jam sessions with their close friends David Marinelli on drums, and Ricky Gourmet on guitar. On today’s episode, you’ll hear Finneas and Ashe perform two standout tracks from The Dream—“Times Square Jesus” and “The Hudson.” Justin Richmond also digs into their collaborative process, exploring how their creative partnership shapes not only the music but even the way they present themselves to the world. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from The Favors HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What was meant to be an hour-long interview with Gene Simmons turned into one of the stranger conversations we’ve had on Broken Record. As co-founder, bassist, and co-frontman of KISS alongside Paul Stanley, Simmons created one of the most outrageous personas in rock history: The Demon. On stage, he breathed fire, spit blood, and wagged his famously long tongue. Off stage, he and KISS became merchandising pioneers, selling everything from comic books and lunchboxes to KISS-branded coffins. Now 76, Simmons remains as enigmatic as ever. This November, he’ll headline KISS Kruise XII: Landlocked in Vegas, a three-day fan gathering at Virgin Hotels Las Vegas. In the lead-up, he joined Justin Richmond to talk about the Beatles’ unmatched songwriting, why KISS never chased radio singles, and to deliver a few of his trademark off-color remarks. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from KISS and Gene Simmons HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In 2022, at 75 years-old, Loudon Wainwright III released Lifetime Achievement—an aptly titled album from a songwriter whose debut came more than fifty years earlier. Over the decades, Loudon has built a reputation for his confessional style, writing candidly about the struggles and absurdities of family life, failed relationships, and the scars of parental abandonment. While his subject matter can be heavy, he often balances it with wit and humor. You’ll hear that today when he performs “Fam Vac” and “Back in Your Town” from Lifetime Achievement. In this conversation with Bruce Headlam, Loudon reflects on how he leaned into his upper-class upbringing when he first began performing professionally, what it was like collaborating with guitar virtuoso Richard Thompson in the 1980s, and the magical feeling of stepping on stage for the very first time. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Loudon Wainwright III songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Great musical chemistry often starts at home. Think of family bands like Sly and the Family Stone, The Beach Boys, the Bee Gees, Haim, Oasis, AC/DC, and The Jacksons. Infinity Song, our guests today, carry on that tradition. Siblings Momo, Abraham, Angel, and Israel Boyd grew up between Detroit and New York City, sharpening their sound wherever they could: in church, in the park, on subway platforms, even around the kitchen table. Their devotion to performing eventually carried them to bigger stages, guided by their father and manager John Boyd and supported by Jay-Z’s Roc Nation. Along the way, they’ve developed a unique blend of R&B and folk that they describe as modern-day soft rock. For today's episode, Justin Richmond sat down with the Boyd siblings live at the Tribeca Festival in New York. They talked about the role music has always played in their family, the pivotal moment when their dad saved the day in a high-stakes meeting with Jay-Z, and they performed a couple of tracks from their album Metamorphosis Complete. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite tracks from Infinity Song HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margo Price’s new album, Hard Headed Woman, was recorded in the heart of Nashville at the legendary RCA Studio A—the very place where the “Nashville Sound” was born, and where greats like Merle Haggard, Dolly Parton, and Charley Pride have all recorded. It’s the perfect setting for Margo, who’s as much a student of country’s rich history as she is a fan of its fearless rule breakers. She’s never taken the straight path herself, a journey she tells in her 2022 memoir, Maybe We’ll Make It. On today’s episode, Bruce Headlam talks with Margo Price about the making of her new album and her creative partnership with her husband and longtime collaborator, Jeremy Ivey. Margo also shares her thoughts on the inauthenticity of mainstream country, and why she continues to stay committed to pouring both extreme craft and care into every song she writes. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Margo Price songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Soaring, lush and steeped in soul, Annahstasia has a voice that feels distant and intimate all at once. She was scouted in high school for a career in pop music but after some strange dealings set out down the road of self discovery. You can hear what she uncovered about herself and her artistry on her serene new album, Tether. The album was recorded live in studio and is stripped to the bone allowing her voice and poetry to shine through unencumbered by any hint of pop production. Justin Richmond spoke to Annahstasia about her journey through music, which includes earning a four-year degree, opening for the great Lenny Kravitz, and co-starring in Kendrick Lamar’s “Luther” music video. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Annahstasia songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chrystia Cabral is the experimental, often mystically-inclined Oakland artist who records as Spellling. Since her 2019 debut, she’s built a reputation for richly imaginative music that defies easy categorization. Her third album, The Turning Wheel, earned a rare perfect 10 from notoriously discerning online critic Anthony Fantano, who called it “stunning and beautiful.” Today, Spellling joins Justin Richmond to talk about the making of her latest release, Portrait of My Heart—a bold evolution that deepens her blend of avant-garde, pop, and rock by adding new layers of mysticism and theatricality. She also reflects on her transition from teaching to touring, the intention behind every element of her sound, and the early days of her music-making, when she first began experimenting with gear. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Spellling songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Daron Malakian first made his name as the enigmatic guitarist and songwriter behind System of a Down. Between 1998 and 2005, the band released five albums—three of which debuted at number one on the Billboard charts. In 2006, System announced an indefinite hiatus. Eager to keep creating, Daron launched a new project: Scars on Broadway. Their debut album arrived in 2008 to critical acclaim. Since then, he’s reunited with System for a series of live performances—including a recent South American tour that drew massive crowds. Their final stop in São Paulo, Brazil, attracted an estimated 75,000 fans. Now, after seven years in the making, Daron is releasing Addicted to the Violence, the third Scars on Broadway album—featuring what he considers some of the best songs he’s ever written. On today’s episode, Leah Rose sits down with Daron to talk about why he believes he was destined to be a rock star, and how his parents’ journey from Baghdad to Hollywood helped make that dream possible. He also explains what people often misunderstand about his relationship with System frontman Serj Tankian—and reveals the surprising contrast between his outrageous onstage persona and who he really is offstage. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Daron Malakian songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we’re joined by one of the most inventive and electrifying vocalists in modern soul music: Bilal.  Since the release of his debut album 1st Born Second in 2001, Bilal has defied categorization by design and by circumstance. With a voice that shifts effortlessly from a whisper to a wail, and from jazz to gospel to outer space, he’s carved a singular path through the world of music. Whether lending hooks to Kendrick Lamar or collaborating with Erykah Badu, Bilal has long been your favorite singer’s favorite singer. Now, he’s back with a brilliant new project: Adjust Brightness. Bold, cinematic, and emotionally raw, it’s his most cohesive work since his debut—a swirling, psychedelic blend of soul, jazz, hip-hop, and feeling. And as if that weren’t enough, Bilal has also just released Live at Glasshaus, an intimate and explosive set that captures the unpredictable energy of his live shows. Today, Bilal opens up to Justin Richmond about the making of Adjust Brightness, how he prepares for those electrifying live performances, and why chasing musical and spiritual freedom has always been his true north. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Bilal songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mike Shinoda took a bold step last fall when he reintroduced Linkin Park with a new lineup featuring drummer Colin Brittain and singer Emily Armstrong as lead vocalist—taking on the role once held by Chester Bennington, who died by suicide in 2017. Mike, who co-founded Linkin Park in 1996, has long served as the group’s de facto producer, as well as its MC and keyboardist. The band rose to massive success in the 2000s, with a run of genre-blending albums that have collectively sold more than 100 million copies worldwide. In November, Linkin Park released From Zero, their eighth studio album and the first with Emily Armstrong as frontwoman. The record has already surpassed three billion streams online. On today’s episode, Leah Rose talks to Mike Shinoda about why he chose not to retire Linkin Park—and instead took the creative risk of reinventing the band nearly 30 years after its formation. Mike also shares his favorite Linkin Park songs of all time and explains how the band managed to stand apart from the bro-centric, frat-boy culture that defined much of early-2000s nu-metal. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from Mike Shinoda and Linkin Park HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jesse Malin quite literally came of age onstage in the gritty clubs of New York City. At just 12 years old, he fronted Heart Attack—one of the earliest hardcore punk bands. After the band broke up in ‘84, Jesse went on to play in other groups, including Hope, and later co-founded D Generation, a glam-punk band that toured extensively through the '90s, opening for acts like Kiss, the Ramones, and Social Distortion. In the early 2000s, Jesse launched a solo career, trading hardcore for a more singer-songwriter-driven approach. As a solo artist, he’s collaborated with a wide range of musicians, including Bruce Springsteen, Lucinda Williams, and Billie Joe Armstrong. A true musician’s musician, Jesse has long been a beloved figure in the rock community. So when he suffered a rare spinal stroke in 2023 that left him temporarily paralyzed from the waist down, that community rallied around him. The result was Silver Patron Saints: The Songs of Jesse Malin—a 2024 tribute album featuring covers of his songs by friends and admirers. Jesse is also debuting a musical this fall called, Jesse Malin’s Silver Manhattan: A Musical Guide To Survival, at the Gramercy Theatre in New York. On today’s episode, Bruce Headlam talks with Jesse Malin about his colorful upbringing in Queens, how he found the nerve to try out for a gig at CBGB’s at age 12, and what it was like during the formative years of New York’s hardcore scene. Jesse also shares how his “positive mental attitude” helped him through the toughest chapter of his life—recovering from the stroke that nearly ended his ability to walk. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Jesse Malin songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The youngest Haim sister, Alana, started playing music with her older sisters, Danielle and Este, when she was just four years old. Back then, the three of them were part of their family band, Rockinhaim, playing charity gigs all over L.A. and the San Fernando Valley where they grew up. After high school, Danielle was jamming in Laurel Canyon when Jenny Lewis spotted her and invited her to join her touring band. Not long after, she hit the road again—this time playing guitar and drums for Julian Casablancas. But eventually, Danielle came back home, ready to start a band with her sisters. In 2012, Haim dropped their first EP, Forever, to critical acclaim. Pretty soon they were opening for A-listers like Taylor Swift, Rihanna, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. On today’s episode, Leah Rose sits down with Alana, Danielle, and Este to talk about their new album, I Quit—co-produced with longtime collaborator Rostam. The album dives into the highs and lows of single life in your 30s. The sisters also share why they still think like an opening band—even when they’re headlining stadiums—and the moment they realized not everyone grew up playing in a band with their parents. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Haim songs HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today on Broken Record, we’re joined by the one and only Bootsy Collins. Bootsy burst onto the scene in the early ’70s as James Brown’s young, electrifying bass player. But it was with Parliament-Funkadelic that he truly found his voice—or rather, his voices—balancing raw, uncut funk with a psychedelic, intergalactic persona that would go on to inspire artists from Prince to Thundercat. In this conversation with Justin Richmond, Bootsy reflects on what it’s been like to navigate life as both William Collins—the introspective, spiritually grounded man from Cincinnati—and Bootsy, the rhinestone-rimmed avatar of groove. He also opens up about his legendary songwriting partnership with George Clinton and keyboard genius Bernie Worrell, and how the three of them helped create some of the most joyful and mind-bending music in American history. Even now, more than 50 years into his career, Bootsy remains on the cutting edge—embracing new technology, collaborating with a new generation of artists, and continuing to spread The One with his latest release, Album of the Year #1 Funkateer. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite Bootsy Collins songs HERE. Get ad-free episodes to Broken Record by subscribing to Pushkin+ on Apple Podcasts or Pushkin.fm. Pushkin+ subscribers can access ad-free episodes, full audiobooks, exclusive binges, and bonus content for all Pushkin shows. Subscribe on Apple: apple.co/pushkinSubscribe on Pushkin: pushkin.fm/plusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, Justin Richmond is joined by the Starchild himself—KISS co-founder and frontman, Paul Stanley. Born and raised in New York City, Paul fell in love with music at an early age, attending shows at iconic venues like the Fillmore East. Over the course of more than 50 years with KISS, he helped build one of the most devoted fan bases in rock history, turning theatrical spectacle into an art form. Now that KISS has officially retired from touring, Paul reflects on life beyond the stage. He opens up about what continues to fuel his creativity, and what it means to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the KISS Army. He also shares his personal top five KISS albums—and gives us a preview of KISS: Storms Vegas, the upcoming Las Vegas residency that proves the end of touring doesn’t mean the end of the show. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from Paul Stanley and Kiss HERE. Get ad-free epsiodes to Broken Record by subscribing to Pushkin+ on Apple Podcasts or Pushkin.fm. Pushkin+ subscribers can access ad-free episodes, full audiobooks, exclusive binges, and bonus content for all Pushkin shows. Subscribe on Apple: apple.co/pushkinSubscribe on Pushkin: pushkin.fm/plusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Shirley Manson rose to '90s fame as the magnetic front woman of Garbage, but she was already a seasoned singer when guitarist Steve Marker spotted her in a music video for her previous band, Angelfish. She joined the Garbage in 1994. The band was made up of Steve Marker and producers Duke Erikson and Butch Vig—renowned for his work with Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins. Nearly 30 years and over 17 million albums later, Garbage is preparing to release their eighth studio album, Let All That We Imagine Be The Light. Shirley’s voice remains as sharp and compelling as ever. On today’s episode, Leah Rose sits down with Shirley Manson to discuss how an unexpected piece of advice from an acting coach during her time on the Fox sci-fi series Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles continues to shape her creative process. Shirley also opens up about the challenges of communicating with her bandmates—and shares a hilarious story about meeting one of her musical heroes, Patti Smith—only to discover she had green curry smeared across her face. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from Shirley Manson & Garbage HERE.  Get ad-free epsiodes to Broken Record by subscribing to Pushkin+ on Apple Podcasts or Pushkin.fm. Pushkin+ subscribers can access ad-free episodes, full audiobooks, exclusive binges, and bonus content for all Pushkin shows. Subscribe on Apple: apple.co/pushkinSubscribe on Pushkin: pushkin.fm/plusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we're revisiting a gem from our archives. In late 2020, Wilco's frontman and acclaimed songwriter Jeff Tweedy released his compact yet powerful book, "How to Write One Song" – a remarkable guide for unlocking anyone's creative potential through songwriting. This exploration of creativity immediately resonated with Broken Record host Malcolm Gladwell, leading to a fascinating conversation about the book and examining what has established Tweedy as one of the most distinctive songwriters of the 21st century so far. You can hear a playlist of some of our favorite songs from Jeff Tweedy & Wilco HERE.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.